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 Subject: RE: A New MIDI Atari?
Author: Tero (user-hkidial6b-14.dial.inet.fi)
Date:   06-17-2003 21:41

Johan Klockars wrote:
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>> PC architecture is same old that in first
>> 8086...
> The programming model changed a _lot_ with
> the 386.

OK...they change memory 64k-blocking to fake 32-bit thinks.

>> there is no memorymapped-io,
> Of course there is memory mapped I/O. That
> not all hardware uses it is mostly a matter
> of legacy support and convenience.

Ok...but programs cannot use them Atari way.

>> no DSP-chip
> Most reasonably good soundcards have DSPs in > some form.

OK. I have seen actually PC/Mac soundcard that have four DSP-chips, but and big but you cannot program them yourself.

>> no graphics in memory,
>Thank God!

If you see how Silicon Graphics do that, you wound say that way.
And with Atari Falcon is very nice to make up and down scrolling with only set where videl reads graphics...of course double or trible buffering is nice too...

> (Some chipset built-in graphics hardware
> does have that, though.)

Problem is that PC cannot take real advantage of it.

>> no sprites...
> Just about every graphics card has a sprite > for the mouse pointer.

cool...at last...old cards don't

> For more generic sprites you'll have to look
> at some games consoles and their relatives.

PS2 would nice architecture...

>> there is not anything new nice
>> architecture.
> What would you classify as new and nice?

how about PS2, Gamecube...SGi it's only nice, because architecture is actually old.

>> homecomputer at price 150euros/dollars like
>> I buy at 1985...
> useable PC's for $200 at various places in
> the US

cool...(why they don't sell them in europe)...

> What do you want sprites for, anyway?

It is nice if you can move thinks on the screen and you can draw under it without memory programming and it's save a lot memory bandwidth.

 Topics Author  Date
  A New MIDI Atari? new GD 06-07-2003 19:59 
   RE: A New MIDI Atari? new mintboy 06-08-2003 03:09 
   any alternatives to x86? new replicant 06-08-2003 17:18 
    RE: any alternatives to x86? new Nate Downes 06-10-2003 04:00 
    RE: any alternatives to x86? new Alex 06-11-2003 16:44 
     RE: any alternatives to x86? new replicant 06-11-2003 17:56 
      reality and possibilities new Alex F. (not Alex) 06-11-2003 19:24 
       RE: reality and possibilities new replicant 06-11-2003 22:55 
        RE: reality and possibilities new Alex F. 06-11-2003 23:22 
         RE: reality and possibilities new replicant 06-12-2003 00:59 
    RE: any alternatives to x86? new Alex 06-11-2003 16:45 
     RE: any alternatives to x86? new Johan Klockars 06-11-2003 16:57 
     RE: any alternatives to x86? new Nate Downes 06-11-2003 17:20 
     don't get overheated; that's a x86 thing to do! new replicant 06-11-2003 18:09 
      RE: don't get overheated; that's a x86 thing to do new Ragstaff 06-12-2003 15:07 
    RE: any alternatives to x86? new replicant 06-11-2003 18:13 
    What about the PegasosII G4-1Ghz for 499,- EUR? new Henri 06-13-2003 17:56 
     RE: yummy new replicant 06-13-2003 18:43 
      RE: yummy new J.O. Aho 07-06-2003 18:15 
    RE: any alternatives to x86? new J.O. Aho 07-06-2003 18:02 
   RE: A New MIDI Atari? new Alex F. 06-09-2003 01:24 
    RE: A New MIDI Atari? new replicant 06-09-2003 02:39 
     RE: A New MIDI Atari? new Damion 06-09-2003 02:52 
      what type CPU? new replicant 06-09-2003 04:55 
       RE: what type CPU? new Damion 06-09-2003 23:16 
      RE: A New MIDI Atari? new tero 06-09-2003 18:31 
       RE: A New MIDI Atari? new Damion 06-09-2003 23:26 
        RE: A New MIDI Atari? new tero 06-10-2003 18:14 
         RE: A New MIDI Atari? new Damion 06-10-2003 22:45 
          RE: A New MIDI Atari? new tero 06-13-2003 14:55 
           I DO want to continue new replicant 06-13-2003 16:59 
            RE: I DO want to continue new Johan Klockars 06-14-2003 00:37 
             RE: I DO want to continue new replicant 06-14-2003 01:16 
            RE: I DO want to continue new Tero 06-17-2003 21:09 
           RE: A New MIDI Atari? new Johan Klockars 06-14-2003 00:07 
            RE: A New MIDI Atari?  Tero 06-17-2003 21:41 
             RE: A New MIDI Atari? new Johan Klockars 06-19-2003 02:57 
     RE: A New MIDI Atari? new Alex F. 06-09-2003 13:17 
      RE: A New MIDI Atari? new Damion 06-09-2003 23:31 
   RE: A New MIDI Atari? new GD 06-09-2003 10:06 
    RE: A New MIDI Atari? new Ragstaff 06-09-2003 13:47 
     RE: A New MIDI Atari? new velvetfr 06-09-2003 15:17 
      RE: A New MIDI Atari? new Alex F. 06-09-2003 16:12 
    RE: A New MIDI Atari? new tero 06-09-2003 18:50 

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