hello, I bought 2 atari 2600's and 55-60 games for 6 bucks (huzzah for me). They came without any joysticks but I found 2 joysticks at my house that I thought might be atari joysticks. they are Wico Command Controls. They work fine except that you cant move up in any of the games. I took one apart and the only thing I noticed was that there are only 8 wires running to the 9 pins.