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 Subject: RE: Ideas on new Atari
Author: Evan Langlois (c-67-164-129-171.client.comcast.net)
Date:   03-03-2005 00:14

OK, you are mostly right about the custom chips. However, emulation of custom chips is only necessary for programs that access hardware directly. If such a program only makes clean OS calls, then it will have no problems on a new machine.

Second, the MMU isn't an Atari custom chip. Most modern processors have an MMU, and many of the problems of the ACP are because the coldfire CPU does not normally contain an MMU.

However, the Coldfire 4e core processors (including the MCF5474 which is the one I would use from the family) have an MMU. This allows you to not only do real memory protection and virtual memory, dynamic libs, etc, but you can map all the hardware addresses of those custom chips to RAM and have any writes to that area trigger an exception - the OS then takes care of emulating the hardware access. The MMU is the trick to making it work, and I'm hoping the ACP team will realize this and not make an overly expensive design full of proprietary chips just for the sake of backwards compatibility with old games. There site does not acknowledge that the newer Coldfire chips have an MMU.

 Topics Author  Date
  Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-02-2005 19:59 
   RE: Ideas on new Atari new earx 03-02-2005 20:33 
    RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-02-2005 20:44 
     RE: Ideas on new Atari new The Paranoid 03-02-2005 22:26 
      RE: Ideas on new Atari new jdon 03-02-2005 23:51 
      RE: Ideas on new Atari  Evan Langlois 03-03-2005 00:14 
       RE: Ideas on new Atari new The Paranoid 03-03-2005 20:44 
        RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-04-2005 00:54 
         RE: Ideas on new Atari new The Paranoid 03-04-2005 19:02 
         RE: Ideas on new Atari new GrandPoobah 03-07-2005 02:42 
          RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-07-2005 23:40 
          RE: Ideas on new Atari new stimpy 03-09-2005 11:23 
           RE: Ideas on new Atari new GrandPoobah 03-11-2005 05:15 
        RE: Ideas on new Atari new Martrine 03-04-2005 18:35 
         RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-04-2005 19:52 
     RE: Ideas on new Atari new DMT 03-03-2005 10:41 
      RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-04-2005 00:18 
       RE: Ideas on new Atari new DMT 03-04-2005 09:58 
        RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-04-2005 19:59 
         RE: Ideas on new Atari new Eric 03-07-2005 22:51 
          RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-08-2005 01:33 
           RE: Ideas on new Atari new Ragstaff 03-29-2005 08:48 
            RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-31-2005 21:37 
         RE: Ideas on new Atari new Eric 03-07-2005 23:16 
        RE: Ideas on new Atari new earx 03-09-2005 15:38 
         RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-12-2005 06:34 
          RE: Ideas on new Atari new earx 03-14-2005 12:05 
           RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-15-2005 19:32 
            RE: Ideas on new Atari new earx 03-16-2005 12:39 
             RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-18-2005 07:38 
              RE: Ideas on new Atari new earx 03-18-2005 17:32 
               RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-20-2005 18:48 
                RE: Ideas on new Atari new earx 03-20-2005 19:38 
                 RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-21-2005 08:19 
                  RE: Ideas on new Atari new havoc 03-21-2005 08:34 
                RE: Ideas on new Atari new havoc 03-21-2005 08:24 
   RE: Ideas on new Atari new BDAqua 03-03-2005 07:06 
    RE: Ideas on new Atari new Shak 03-03-2005 07:13 
   RE: Ideas on new Atari new joe 03-08-2005 04:24 
    RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-08-2005 06:48 
     RE: Ideas on new Atari new havoc 03-08-2005 11:15 
      RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-12-2005 06:43 
       RE: Ideas on new Atari new havoc 03-12-2005 08:31 
        RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-18-2005 07:43 
         RE: Ideas on new Atari new havoc 03-18-2005 09:51 
         RE: Ideas on new Atari new earx 03-18-2005 17:03 
     RE: Ideas on new Atari new earx 03-09-2005 15:50 
      RE: Ideas on new Atari new Dark Willow 03-09-2005 19:01 
       RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-12-2005 07:36 
      RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-12-2005 07:20 
       RE: Ideas on new Atari new earx 03-14-2005 12:42 
        RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-15-2005 19:16 
         RE: Ideas on new Atari new earx 03-16-2005 13:12 
          RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-18-2005 08:18 
   RE: Ideas on new Atari new Fenix 03-10-2005 16:25 
    RE: Ideas on new Atari new Dark Willow 03-10-2005 18:17 
     RE: Ideas on new Atari new Fenix 03-10-2005 20:14 
      RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-12-2005 08:11 
     RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-12-2005 07:58 
    RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-12-2005 07:47 

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