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 Subject: RE: Ideas on new Atari
Author: Evan Langlois (67.187.51.187)
Date:   03-12-2005 07:47

Good question. Which RISC CPU would you use? It would depend on your needs? Do you want fastest possible speed with no backwards compatibility? G5s? Is price a concern? If so, forget G5s. If code size is an issue, forget anything in the x86 line, no matter how fast. Likewise with power consumption! PowerPC is hungry, and x86 is even hungrier.

Now, Coldfire is RISC. What else would you recommend? XScale? PowerPC?

For power consumption coldfire and Xscale are your main choices. PowerPC won't cut it. Also, the instruction sizes on coldfire can be much smaller than PowerPC. A PowerPC may average 2 instructions per bus fetch, it does so with a 64 bit bus as instructions are 32 bits wide. On Coldfire, the instructions can be 8, 16, or 32 bits wide, so you can often get the same 2 instructions per fetch on a 32 bit bus.

Now, when you look at the efficiency of running an emulator for older code and the growing pains Amiga sees now, and Apple saw with 68K to PPC and later with OS9 to OSX, the idea of using coldfire and running most of the code native becomes very attractive. Code compiled for a coldfire is also backwards compatible to the 020 and up! 68K code can run on coldfire with either a library for the missing instructions or with a 68K->Coldfire assembly translator. Either way is much cleaner than full CPU emulation.

I looked at Coldfire first because of its own merits (okay, and I really like the 68K design being the second assembly I learned, right after 6502). The fact that a great musician friendly OS and apps that I was already familiar with is icing on the cake.

 Topics Author  Date
  Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-02-2005 19:59 
   RE: Ideas on new Atari new earx 03-02-2005 20:33 
    RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-02-2005 20:44 
     RE: Ideas on new Atari new The Paranoid 03-02-2005 22:26 
      RE: Ideas on new Atari new jdon 03-02-2005 23:51 
      RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-03-2005 00:14 
       RE: Ideas on new Atari new The Paranoid 03-03-2005 20:44 
        RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-04-2005 00:54 
         RE: Ideas on new Atari new The Paranoid 03-04-2005 19:02 
         RE: Ideas on new Atari new GrandPoobah 03-07-2005 02:42 
          RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-07-2005 23:40 
          RE: Ideas on new Atari new stimpy 03-09-2005 11:23 
           RE: Ideas on new Atari new GrandPoobah 03-11-2005 05:15 
        RE: Ideas on new Atari new Martrine 03-04-2005 18:35 
         RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-04-2005 19:52 
     RE: Ideas on new Atari new DMT 03-03-2005 10:41 
      RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-04-2005 00:18 
       RE: Ideas on new Atari new DMT 03-04-2005 09:58 
        RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-04-2005 19:59 
         RE: Ideas on new Atari new Eric 03-07-2005 22:51 
          RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-08-2005 01:33 
           RE: Ideas on new Atari new Ragstaff 03-29-2005 08:48 
            RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-31-2005 21:37 
         RE: Ideas on new Atari new Eric 03-07-2005 23:16 
        RE: Ideas on new Atari new earx 03-09-2005 15:38 
         RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-12-2005 06:34 
          RE: Ideas on new Atari new earx 03-14-2005 12:05 
           RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-15-2005 19:32 
            RE: Ideas on new Atari new earx 03-16-2005 12:39 
             RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-18-2005 07:38 
              RE: Ideas on new Atari new earx 03-18-2005 17:32 
               RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-20-2005 18:48 
                RE: Ideas on new Atari new earx 03-20-2005 19:38 
                 RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-21-2005 08:19 
                  RE: Ideas on new Atari new havoc 03-21-2005 08:34 
                RE: Ideas on new Atari new havoc 03-21-2005 08:24 
   RE: Ideas on new Atari new BDAqua 03-03-2005 07:06 
    RE: Ideas on new Atari new Shak 03-03-2005 07:13 
   RE: Ideas on new Atari new joe 03-08-2005 04:24 
    RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-08-2005 06:48 
     RE: Ideas on new Atari new havoc 03-08-2005 11:15 
      RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-12-2005 06:43 
       RE: Ideas on new Atari new havoc 03-12-2005 08:31 
        RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-18-2005 07:43 
         RE: Ideas on new Atari new havoc 03-18-2005 09:51 
         RE: Ideas on new Atari new earx 03-18-2005 17:03 
     RE: Ideas on new Atari new earx 03-09-2005 15:50 
      RE: Ideas on new Atari new Dark Willow 03-09-2005 19:01 
       RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-12-2005 07:36 
      RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-12-2005 07:20 
       RE: Ideas on new Atari new earx 03-14-2005 12:42 
        RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-15-2005 19:16 
         RE: Ideas on new Atari new earx 03-16-2005 13:12 
          RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-18-2005 08:18 
   RE: Ideas on new Atari new Fenix 03-10-2005 16:25 
    RE: Ideas on new Atari new Dark Willow 03-10-2005 18:17 
     RE: Ideas on new Atari new Fenix 03-10-2005 20:14 
      RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-12-2005 08:11 
     RE: Ideas on new Atari new Evan Langlois 03-12-2005 07:58 
    RE: Ideas on new Atari  Evan Langlois 03-12-2005 07:47 

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