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 Subject: RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs
Author: Steve (gate5-sandiego.nmci.navy.mil)
Date:   01-27-2006 17:22

Brad, first of all thanks for the vote of confidence... I think?? :) :)

I stopped posting to this thread because I was feeling pretty beat down and I felt like I got to angry and shot my mouth off so I decided to stop...

That said, here are a few facts to base the forthcoming conversation off of.

I have in my possession at this moment a stack of perfect 1:1 copies of dozens of original Atari titles. That used both the Skew align protection and OR extra sector/track protection methods.

All these copies run perfectly on a NORMAL Atari drive and have ALL the original protections intact (they cannot be copied without a Happy drive)and are NOT Cracked.

These include:
Synfile+
MULE
Realm of Impossibility
Seven Cities of Gold
Ballblazer
Kronis Rift
Master Of The Lamps
This list goes ON and ON.. but I am at work right now..........

All of them were copied using an original Happy 810 drive with the ORIGINAL Happy ROM and happy software v5.6. Using varying combinations of the different copying options and the "slow the motor down trick" (As the software actually instructed me to do.)

This thing that REAAAAAALLYYY jerks me off about this, is that MOST of these COPIES,,, CANNOT be copied! 1:1 by my 1050 Happy drives,,,,,and I SOLD my 810s before I figured that out!!!!

Sure you can make a PDB backup of these COPIES,,,, just like the original,, but who wants that!?!??

It is illogical that the 1050 Happy would be worse at straight 1:1 coping than the older model, yet, this is the case.

It is this straightforward fact that acts as a basis for my statements regarding WHY Happy was “forced” to adopt the PDB system in the first place.

The Happy documentaion said that the PDB system simplified copting,,, sure,, but at what price?,, most of the PDB backups only worked on a HAPPY drive,, (As was intended)

PDB was a Huge step backwards in every respect.

Creating and maintaining the PDB system was FAR more time consuming and expensive for HCI than simply updating the software to cope with the latest protections.

I believe that the forced usage of PDB system was what caused HCI to throw in the towel on the Happy drive.
(As the industry intended).

 Topics Author  Date
  810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Crash 12-03-2005 19:24 
   RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Steve 12-08-2005 20:23 
    RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Crash 12-12-2005 03:55 
     RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Steve 12-12-2005 17:24 
      RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Crash 12-13-2005 00:02 
       RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Steve 12-13-2005 20:40 
        RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Crash 12-13-2005 21:41 
         RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Steve 12-15-2005 19:12 
      RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new ijor 12-15-2005 22:19 
       810 Happy Drive Stick to what you know new Steve 12-16-2005 06:20 
        RE: 810 Happy Drive Stick to what you know new ijor 12-16-2005 16:22 
         RE: 810 Happy Drive Stick to what you know new Steve 12-16-2005 17:24 
          RE: 810 Happy Drive Stick to what you know new ijor 12-16-2005 19:56 
        RE: 810 Happy Drive Stick to what you know new Crash 01-07-2006 14:51 
       RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Steve 12-16-2005 06:32 
        RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new havoc 12-17-2005 13:00 
         RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Crash 01-07-2006 14:40 
          RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Steve 01-09-2006 19:13 
           RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Crash 01-12-2006 01:22 
            RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Steve 01-13-2006 23:26 
             RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Brad 01-24-2006 12:09 
              RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new dave 01-24-2006 18:12 
              RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs  Steve 01-27-2006 17:22 
               RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new ijor 01-29-2006 02:22 
                RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Steve 02-01-2006 19:23 
                 RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Brad 02-10-2006 13:26 
                  RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Brad 02-10-2006 13:29 
      RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Brad 01-26-2006 23:47 
       RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new dave 01-27-2006 17:33 
        RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Steve 01-30-2006 18:51 
        RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Steve 02-01-2006 20:35 
         RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new dave 02-02-2006 03:55 
          RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new dave 02-02-2006 14:59 
          RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Steve 02-02-2006 15:53 
           RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new dave 02-03-2006 02:01 
            RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Steve 02-03-2006 05:36 
       RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new ijor 01-29-2006 02:27 
       RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Steve 01-30-2006 18:27 
        RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Brad 02-02-2006 06:46 
         RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Steve 02-02-2006 15:38 
          RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Brad 02-03-2006 14:27 
           RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new dave 02-03-2006 15:21 
            RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new dave 02-03-2006 15:28 
           RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Steve 02-03-2006 15:33 
            RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Brad 02-03-2006 22:54 
             RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Steve 02-06-2006 16:35 
              RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Steve 02-10-2006 06:34 
               RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Brad 02-10-2006 13:00 
           RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new dave 02-10-2006 01:59 
            RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Brad 02-10-2006 12:57 
             RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Steve 02-10-2006 15:44 
            RE: 810 Happy Drive Install and Docs new Steve 02-10-2006 15:47 

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