Thanks steve, an image of the file would be nice and of corse, the real happy 5.6 also so Yes, I will pay the postage in advance and would like a backup of one of my favorite games realm of impossibility of course by EA. I tried everything to make a copy, You also mentioned the discovery cart steve in a previous post. fist how do you make 8-bit backups with it???? how do you connect a 5.25 drive to it I mean I have an ST and the discovery cart also but would like to know how to copy 8-bit disks with it! Give me a little inside info here please. I know it cant be as simple as hooking an IBM 5.25 drive to it! LOL! Thanks BRAD