Author: Havoc (145.85.26.97)
Date: 07-02-1999 16:08
Hello Mark
So you see yourself as a big expert in these matters? And you seem to know so much more about this subject than I ever could... OK, let me reply to your remarks then... :)
>I think even the machine he has used matters! The Amiga has a certain
>feel. And this feel effects the work. (Just like all thing in life)
Bullshit! You obviously don't have the slightest clue what you're talking about. It hasn't got *anything* to do with the system that was used. There are two factors when you are doing graphics: your creativity and the possibilities your software offers. If you disagree with this, then that's your problem. But to me it proves that your knowledge of computer graphics is limited to that of the average gambler. Prove me wrong. :)
I use an Atari, and Amiga and a PC for my work (both professional and scene related stuff). I do not use the Atari primarily because of it's "feeling". I use it because it has the most practical software for the task I have to complete.
>As you are a "designer". You should probably know Mike refers to the
>palette used. This means that in all the icons the same colors will be
>used and that gives limitations in your art.
Mark, before making such remarks, please check the url given first. And to refresh your expert knowledge a little: Icons usually have one palette per set. You can have multiple sets on screen at one time. You can even use one set per icon. And even if all those icons would be done in the same 32 colors, it still isn't an achievement. 32 colors limits you in some ways, sure. But it is more than enough for icons.
> NO I see it differently! Some said that just saying Amigas are more
> advanced isn`t enough. So he did the best thing by showing what is more
> advanced. When you just use words people misunderstand your words. He
> just used it as backing up his opinions. (You could have done the > same.)
You can see it any way you like, that's your own choice. What Mike showed us were screenshots of various Amiga desktops. This doesn't prove *anything* about the actual capabilities of the machine (except for screenres and colordepth maybe). He even agrees with this himself.
Could you please explain me when and where I should/could have sensibly used pictures to underline my words?
> It only says he is suprised. And makes a joke about that Ataris will
> get an Amiga look. [[ ;) means a wink and that means he is just joking > - and a funny one too ;) ]] And at last he just restated evl`s view. <>
Wow! You know what the smileys mean! I'm impressed!
The joke wasn't funny. The "LOL" was childish. It didn't appear to me as if he was just surprised. I don't care if you don't believe me.
> Haha you must be joking, right???? A big majority of responses he got
> were from ATARI.ORG members! Jan Daldrup (thex@atari.org), Vido
> (vido@atari.org), Pieter van de Meer (earx@atari.org), The Paranoid
> (paranoid@atari.org), Marko (marko@atari.org), Richard Davey
> (rich@gem.atari.org), EVL (ae@atari.org)
Haha you must be an idiot, right???? A big majority of responses he got were from people who have email adresses at atari.org, which doesn't mean that they're part of the atari.org crew at all. Get your facts right before saying such things. You obviously don't know what you're talking about.
> Did I miss someone???? LOL
Yes, you did. I have an address there too. "LOL".
> He is not that naief he just wanted to talk about the future Amigas. He
> used the old classic Amigas as an example how great the Future will be.
That remains to be seen. The Amiga2 was announced two years ago and I haven't seen any actual proof of its existance up to this very day. What about you?
> I think you yourself are a bit in a worry about what will happen to
> Ataris.
Not at all. My Atari's provide me with exactly what I need for my purposes now. That will probably change somewhere in the future because the Atari platform does not seem to develop in the direction I would like it to.
> Maybe that is why the whole Atari team responds EN MASSE
> negatively to his posts.
You obviously haven't read my previous postings. So it makes no sense to respond to this.
Mark, please don't take my words too seriously. But (most of) your points are not based on actual facts and you do not display a lot of knowledge of the subject. So please continue playing games and writing your letters or whatever on a great computer (because that's what the Amiga is). But don't get involved in discussions until you can make a sensible contribution, ok?
/Peter.
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