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 Subject: RE: Strange device in my falcon, can someone ID it
Author: Flash (port272.cvx2-sto.ppp.netlink.se)
Date:   11-15-2001 22:22

Youīre right, they are not pincompatible.

Like the guys said...

The 030 in your Falc is a 132 pin PLCC chip,
which is soldered on to the motherboard. :(
APPLE used 179 pin PGA 040īs in their Macīs.
(looks like a 486 chip, on both sides)
MC68040RC(V) has On-Chip Cache, MMU & FPU...
(V=3.3Volts, no V=5Volts) A nice chip indeed.

...BUT:

There IS a 040 with 132 pin PLCC case too,
but itīs an "embedded 040" (No MMU, No FPU)
I havenīt been able to find the pinout, but
it COULD as well be pincompatible with the 030?
Anyway, APPLE never used that one, and I have
never seen it elsewhere than at Motorolaīs site.


I was going to do the 030-040 swap myself, once.
I designed a liīl adaptor, and removed the 030
from the motherboard, using a pencil torch.

It was then, when I checked the solder pads with
a magnitude glass, I realised that the Atari Falcon
is a 16 bit machine. There was no connections to
the 030īs DATA BUS bits 16-31! (took some photos)

"NO WAY I gonna waste a 040 on THAT!", so I took a
68030/33MHZ from a MAC LC 450, and soldered it in.



There are one more option, though:

Moto once made a 68070! -Itīs a 16/32, with MMU and
2 DMAīs. Marked "35MHZ", so it should work up to
at least 50. Maybe this is the CPU they had in mind
when they designed the 16 bit Falcon? The UDS/LDS
signals needed, are available from the COMBEL,
pins 171/179... Moto donīt produce the 070 anymore,
and they have removed ALL info about it from their
site. Though you can still buy it from ELFA in Sweden. :)

 Topics Author  Date
  Strange device in my falcon, can someone ID it? new Jan Thomas 11-14-2001 11:36 
   RE: Strange device in my falcon, can someone ID it new stimpy 11-14-2001 19:20 
    RE: Strange device in my falcon, can someone ID it new Jan Thomas 11-15-2001 00:43 
     RE: Strange device in my falcon, can someone ID it new The Paranoid 11-15-2001 09:51 
     RE: Strange device in my falcon, can someone ID it new stimpy 11-15-2001 11:21 
      RE: Strange device in my falcon, can someone ID it new Jan Thomas 11-15-2001 14:44 
     RE: Strange device in my falcon, can someone ID it  Flash 11-15-2001 22:22 
      RE: Strange device in my falcon, can someone ID it new stimpy 11-16-2001 00:17 
       RE: Strange device in my falcon, can someone ID it new Flash 11-16-2001 19:16 
        RE: Strange device in my falcon, can someone ID it new stimpy 11-18-2001 20:07 
         RE: Strange device in my falcon, can someone ID it new Flash 11-19-2001 00:44 

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