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 Subject: RE: TOSter - give me a break.
Author: The Paranoid (kralle.zdv.Uni-Mainz.DE)
Date:   01-28-2002 13:18

Hi Ragstaff,

i'm pretty lost on technical grounds myself most of the time, but i picked up a thing or two. So i wouldn't dare to say that i could plan and produce a clone - But some things are so obscure even i can identify as being junk.
So let's put some details straight:

About the ST RAM access:
According to Michael Ruge's Chips'n Chips docu, no part of the ST accesses RAM at 16 MHz.

About 133 MHz SDRAMs:
Yes, they are cheap and you can run the DIMMs in 66.5 MHz, too, as far as i know (Johan can tell better). But there's basically no sense in running the RAM faster than the CPU.

About the additional 68882:
The problem is that the 040 has either its internal FPU or none at all. It can NOT handle an external FPU without extra hardware. Adding an 68882 to a 040 does not boost but hinder performance.

About a FlashROM bootdisk:
I don't mind much about having a FlashROM for ROM or Boot-ROM. Just that handling a FlashROM unit "over IDE using DMA" is at least to my point of knowledge impossible - especially since it's already hard to mix IDE and DMA - IDE usually hogs the CPU bus.

About hacking Windows-drivers:
You usually don't get docs about the driver's internals with Windows driver CDs but just plain binaries. It would take ages to understand their internals - Without original developer docs there's basically no chance. With original developer docs however it's pointless to hack Windows drivers - You are better off by writing a driver from scratch.


So honestly, if there's a team capable of designing an Atari clone at FlashLabs in Sweden - my regards and my respect to them.
But if they try to build a machine with the specs mentioned on Anders S. page, it's just simply not going to happen.


The Paranoid

 Topics Author  Date
  TOSter contact?? new Ragstaff 01-23-2002 23:39 
   RE: TOSter contact?? new Anders S 01-24-2002 00:39 
    RE: TOSter contact?? new Jo Even 01-24-2002 01:31 
     RE: TOSter contact?? new Anders S 01-24-2002 06:33 
    RE: TOSter contact?? new GokMasE 01-24-2002 03:38 
     RE: TOSter contact?? new Anders S 01-24-2002 08:47 
      RE: TOSter contact?? new Johan Klockars 01-24-2002 21:08 
       RE: TOSter contact?? new Shane 01-25-2002 02:37 
        RE: TOSter contact?? new Anders S 01-25-2002 05:40 
         objectivity new Ragstaff 01-25-2002 06:42 
          RE: objectivity new Anders S 01-25-2002 07:20 
         RE: TOSter contact?? new GokMasE 01-25-2002 10:34 
        RE: TOSter - give me a break. new The Paranoid 01-25-2002 10:41 
         RE: TOSter - give me a break. new Anders S 01-25-2002 16:33 
         RE: TOSter - give me a break. new Ragstaff 01-26-2002 02:21 
          TOSter - breaked right now. new Anders S 01-26-2002 06:59 
           RE: TOSter - breaked right now. new FatRakoon 01-26-2002 13:29 
            RE: TOSter - breaked right now. new Anders S 01-26-2002 17:33 
             RE: TOSter - breaked right now. new Ragstaff 01-27-2002 02:27 
              Good tip. Got more? new Anders S 01-27-2002 12:52 
               RE: Good tip. Got more? new Mintboy 01-27-2002 23:50 
                RE: Good tip. Got more? new Daniel Gustafsson 01-28-2002 09:03 
                RE: Good tip. Got more? new Anders S 01-28-2002 11:50 
             Speeds new FatRakoon 01-27-2002 15:49 
             RE: TOSter - breaked right now. new Johan Klockars 01-27-2002 18:15 
              RE: TOSter - breaked right now. new FatRakoon 01-27-2002 20:14 
               RE: TOSter - breaked right now. new Johan Klockars 01-27-2002 21:35 
                RE: TOSter - breaked right now. new FatRakoon 01-27-2002 23:59 
           RE: TOSter - breaked right now. new Johan Klockars 01-27-2002 16:50 
          RE: TOSter - give me a break.  The Paranoid 01-28-2002 13:18 
           RE: TOSter - give me a break. new stimpy 01-29-2002 22:58 
            RE: TOSter - give me a break. new Anders S 02-01-2002 03:20 

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