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 Subject: RE: XTOS- Still A Joke
Author: PeP (host3.hms.se)
Date:   03-22-2002 09:43

Hi,

>I though think that a PowerPC CPU or even
>Intel/AMD would be much better. I don't
>know how fast the Coldfire 333Mhz is...

Have a look at Aranym. They are making a TOS compatible virtual machine. It emulates a 68040-ish processor. The rest is supposed to be native, with MiNT device drivers instead of emulation.

>The question is if the Coldfire Atari can
>be used as a general purpose computer. Will
>you be able to view movies, compile Quake 6 >under Mint and run it with good speed ?

We use a low-spec Coldfire at 66mhz/16bit at work, the speed is somewhere around a P75. (In a way faster than most current atari clones - but this is a very bad comparison, the rest of the hardware is not counted for.)

A 333mhz higher-spec 32bit Coldfire would be very fast. Twice the bus width, 5 times the clockfrequency. This is _fast_.

The coldfire needs emulation for a couple of instructions, but if you compile Quake with Coldfire friendly instructions, no emulation is needed.

>Since lots of recompilation will be done
>for the Coldfire, then it could just as
>easy be done for a PowerPC ?

There is a big difference between compilation and recompilation.

The point with using a Coldfire is that no recompilation is needed. "Just" some emulation for seldom used instructions, that can be avoided with suitable compiler options.

For PowerPC, you need to emulate just about everything. This is a lot harder, but it can be fast as hell with JIT, for example

/Peter

 Topics Author  Date
  XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Shane 03-16-2002 15:26 
   RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new jeff 03-16-2002 16:20 
    RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Clint Thompson 03-19-2002 02:11 
    RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Chris Crosskey 03-21-2002 11:54 
   RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Elliot 03-19-2002 23:00 
    RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Shane 03-20-2002 02:04 
     RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new jeff 03-20-2002 06:14 
      RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Ari 03-20-2002 16:48 
       RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Fenix 03-20-2002 19:19 
        RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Matthias Jaap 03-22-2002 19:25 
    RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Baldrick 03-20-2002 03:42 
     RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Dan 03-20-2002 18:09 
      RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Thomas Wellicome 03-20-2002 20:44 
       RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Shane 03-20-2002 21:57 
        RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new jeff 03-21-2002 02:25 
         RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Flash 03-21-2002 17:00 
          RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new KGB 03-21-2002 17:36 
          Missing instructions new Fadest 03-21-2002 17:50 
          movep - who needs this? new Norman Feske 03-21-2002 18:29 
           How about TOS, MagiC, Mint...? new Flash 03-22-2002 00:26 
            RE: How about TOS, MagiC, Mint...? new Norman Feske 03-22-2002 03:02 
             RE: How about TOS, MagiC, Mint...? new Fredrik 03-22-2002 10:51 
              RE: How about TOS, MagiC, Mint...? new Flash 03-23-2002 00:48 
               RE: How about TOS, MagiC, Mint...? new Fredrik 03-23-2002 12:49 
                RE: How about TOS, MagiC, Mint...? new Flash 03-23-2002 19:04 
                 RE: How about TOS, MagiC, Mint...? new Fredrik 03-23-2002 21:02 
                  RE: How about TOS, MagiC, Mint...? new Flash 03-24-2002 17:36 
       RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Elliot 03-21-2002 00:38 
        XTOS- Still A Joke new Shane 03-22-2002 00:16 
         RE: XTOS- Still A Joke new PeP 03-22-2002 08:36 
          RE: XTOS- Still A Joke new Daniel Gustafsson 03-22-2002 09:13 
           RE: XTOS- Still A Joke  PeP 03-22-2002 09:43 
            RE: XTOS- Still A Joke new Daniel Gustafsson 03-22-2002 14:49 
             RE: XTOS- Still A Joke new jeff 03-22-2002 15:02 
           RE: XTOS- Still A Joke new pink-rg 03-22-2002 10:44 
        XTOS- Still A Joke new Shane 03-22-2002 00:16 
         RE: XTOS- Still A Joke new jeff 03-22-2002 15:04 
         Shane is a joke new Joshua Kaijankoski 03-22-2002 15:56 
          RE: Shane is a joke new GokMasE 03-22-2002 16:52 
           RE: Shane is a joke new Joshua Kaijankoski 03-22-2002 19:23 
            Thank You For Reading new Shane 03-22-2002 22:05 
             RE: Thank You For Reading new Joshua Kaijankoski 03-22-2002 22:46 
              What if new Shane 03-23-2002 00:33 
               RE: What if new GokMasE 03-23-2002 02:37 
               RE: What if new Fredrik 03-23-2002 13:23 
                RE: What if new Shane 03-23-2002 14:46 
               RE: What if new jeff 03-24-2002 19:46 

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