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 Subject: RE: XTOS- Still A Joke
Author: jeff (oh-lyndhurst2a-114.clvhoh.adelphia.net)
Date:   03-22-2002 15:02

The Coldifre is still in development by Motorola. It is a succesful embedded computing chip, although the XTOS will be about the first desktop based on it. Motorola's embedded chip operations are about the only ones that still turn a profit, so I think we can look forward to seeing the Coldfire line continue for a while. It's future seems at least as certain as the unprofitable PowerPC, but probably more so.

The point of the Coldfire use over the PowerPC is that recompilation is _not_ necessary. It can be done to take advantage of some Coldfire-specific features, but, in general, 680x0 code can be directly run on it. PowerPC does need emulation torun 680x0 code. So you're right, if everything were recompiled, the PowerPC would be faster, but that would be very difficult, especially with the heavy use of assembly programming in the Atari community. I think the largest thing holding the Atari line back from a major shift to another CPU type are the OSes (MiNT, Magic, and even TOS) which make heavy use of assembly routines in their source code, making them very difficult to port to other architectures. But these OSes should (theoretically) run fine on top of a Coldfire CPU without emulation.


Daniel Gustafsson wrote:
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The Coldfire is fast today, but what about the future?

There is still ofcourse problems with timing dependent games and self-modifying demo coding, but those problems exists even for the Coldfire, so I don't see that there is much difference or much greater effort to go to the PowerPC instead of Coldfire ?

 Topics Author  Date
  XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Shane 03-16-2002 15:26 
   RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new jeff 03-16-2002 16:20 
    RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Clint Thompson 03-19-2002 02:11 
    RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Chris Crosskey 03-21-2002 11:54 
   RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Elliot 03-19-2002 23:00 
    RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Shane 03-20-2002 02:04 
     RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new jeff 03-20-2002 06:14 
      RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Ari 03-20-2002 16:48 
       RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Fenix 03-20-2002 19:19 
        RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Matthias Jaap 03-22-2002 19:25 
    RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Baldrick 03-20-2002 03:42 
     RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Dan 03-20-2002 18:09 
      RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Thomas Wellicome 03-20-2002 20:44 
       RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Shane 03-20-2002 21:57 
        RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new jeff 03-21-2002 02:25 
         RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Flash 03-21-2002 17:00 
          RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new KGB 03-21-2002 17:36 
          Missing instructions new Fadest 03-21-2002 17:50 
          movep - who needs this? new Norman Feske 03-21-2002 18:29 
           How about TOS, MagiC, Mint...? new Flash 03-22-2002 00:26 
            RE: How about TOS, MagiC, Mint...? new Norman Feske 03-22-2002 03:02 
             RE: How about TOS, MagiC, Mint...? new Fredrik 03-22-2002 10:51 
              RE: How about TOS, MagiC, Mint...? new Flash 03-23-2002 00:48 
               RE: How about TOS, MagiC, Mint...? new Fredrik 03-23-2002 12:49 
                RE: How about TOS, MagiC, Mint...? new Flash 03-23-2002 19:04 
                 RE: How about TOS, MagiC, Mint...? new Fredrik 03-23-2002 21:02 
                  RE: How about TOS, MagiC, Mint...? new Flash 03-24-2002 17:36 
       RE: XTOS - Latest Atari Joke new Elliot 03-21-2002 00:38 
        XTOS- Still A Joke new Shane 03-22-2002 00:16 
         RE: XTOS- Still A Joke new PeP 03-22-2002 08:36 
          RE: XTOS- Still A Joke new Daniel Gustafsson 03-22-2002 09:13 
           RE: XTOS- Still A Joke new PeP 03-22-2002 09:43 
            RE: XTOS- Still A Joke new Daniel Gustafsson 03-22-2002 14:49 
             RE: XTOS- Still A Joke  jeff 03-22-2002 15:02 
           RE: XTOS- Still A Joke new pink-rg 03-22-2002 10:44 
        XTOS- Still A Joke new Shane 03-22-2002 00:16 
         RE: XTOS- Still A Joke new jeff 03-22-2002 15:04 
         Shane is a joke new Joshua Kaijankoski 03-22-2002 15:56 
          RE: Shane is a joke new GokMasE 03-22-2002 16:52 
           RE: Shane is a joke new Joshua Kaijankoski 03-22-2002 19:23 
            Thank You For Reading new Shane 03-22-2002 22:05 
             RE: Thank You For Reading new Joshua Kaijankoski 03-22-2002 22:46 
              What if new Shane 03-23-2002 00:33 
               RE: What if new GokMasE 03-23-2002 02:37 
               RE: What if new Fredrik 03-23-2002 13:23 
                RE: What if new Shane 03-23-2002 14:46 
               RE: What if new jeff 03-24-2002 19:46 

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