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 Subject: RE: A New MIDI Atari?
Author: replicant (a80-126-77-62.adsl.xs4all.nl)
Date:   06-09-2003 02:39

I'm not sure whether a coldfire base atari can compete with a PC, comercially speaking.

Of course I know a custom designed computer isn't s cheap a a wintel PC, but when you design a coldfirebased clone and want to sel them for a price of let's say €500 (wild guess of me) who is going to buy it if the aranym solution is simpler and way more powerfull? What lacks here is a coldfire @let's say 1,5 GHz. The effords to design a 400MHz based coldfire are the same as designing a 1,5GHz or 3GHz one, the big prob: there aren't any GHZ coldfires...

As I said before: One need to sell quite a few of those newly designed atarís. The atari market has to grow again. Otherwise NO up to date software anymore, so what's the point of having a new atari then? Being alternative is good, but havind a compuer without anything to play with is way to far alternative.

So: Sorry for the coldfire team, but I think the market is too small for a 400MHz coldfire.

Still I would like to help them, but picture this: I just graduated (Ba in computerelectronics) , can't find a job, (economic ressession here in the Netherlands), I don't have much experience and above all: not any resources to samples of chips, evalution boards, VHDL FPGA starterkits etc. Let alone I have the equipment needed (logic analyser, scope etc.) and the money to design and moreover to manufacture multilayer PCB's (or have it manufactured). You tell me what I should do now.

I'm wondering why it got so quiet around the ACP. I hate it that motorola decided to not longer see the consumer-computer-processor industry as a core-business. What can we do if we don't have a compelling motorola processor? I think the only ressonable way to design a new atari is to get some funding from infogrames an pursuade IBM to design and fabricate a motherboard based on their new PPC970 (including some features like a supervidel like graphiccard among with a nvidia like 3d accelarator chip with some good technical documentation, firewire for video editing along with midi, USB2.0 although I consider that a wintel standard, <+whatever feature you would like just put it here>). As the OS it shoud run a adapted version of aranym with jit compiler for the ppc and the ability to execute native ppc code. It also would include a steem version ported to mint -> running games in a GEM window would be possible... Why running an emulator in an emulator? Well, correctly written programs shoud run at 80% of the native PPC speed with aranym, and al the nostalgic games run on steem, so figure it out... Hec, even trough in a amiga emulator running in a gem window so they know were they stand...


Ahh.. you've got to keep dreaming...

 Topics Author  Date
  A New MIDI Atari? new GD 06-07-2003 19:59 
   RE: A New MIDI Atari? new mintboy 06-08-2003 03:09 
   any alternatives to x86? new replicant 06-08-2003 17:18 
    RE: any alternatives to x86? new Nate Downes 06-10-2003 04:00 
    RE: any alternatives to x86? new Alex 06-11-2003 16:44 
     RE: any alternatives to x86? new replicant 06-11-2003 17:56 
      reality and possibilities new Alex F. (not Alex) 06-11-2003 19:24 
       RE: reality and possibilities new replicant 06-11-2003 22:55 
        RE: reality and possibilities new Alex F. 06-11-2003 23:22 
         RE: reality and possibilities new replicant 06-12-2003 00:59 
    RE: any alternatives to x86? new Alex 06-11-2003 16:45 
     RE: any alternatives to x86? new Johan Klockars 06-11-2003 16:57 
     RE: any alternatives to x86? new Nate Downes 06-11-2003 17:20 
     don't get overheated; that's a x86 thing to do! new replicant 06-11-2003 18:09 
      RE: don't get overheated; that's a x86 thing to do new Ragstaff 06-12-2003 15:07 
    RE: any alternatives to x86? new replicant 06-11-2003 18:13 
    What about the PegasosII G4-1Ghz for 499,- EUR? new Henri 06-13-2003 17:56 
     RE: yummy new replicant 06-13-2003 18:43 
      RE: yummy new J.O. Aho 07-06-2003 18:15 
    RE: any alternatives to x86? new J.O. Aho 07-06-2003 18:02 
   RE: A New MIDI Atari? new Alex F. 06-09-2003 01:24 
    RE: A New MIDI Atari?  replicant 06-09-2003 02:39 
     RE: A New MIDI Atari? new Damion 06-09-2003 02:52 
      what type CPU? new replicant 06-09-2003 04:55 
       RE: what type CPU? new Damion 06-09-2003 23:16 
      RE: A New MIDI Atari? new tero 06-09-2003 18:31 
       RE: A New MIDI Atari? new Damion 06-09-2003 23:26 
        RE: A New MIDI Atari? new tero 06-10-2003 18:14 
         RE: A New MIDI Atari? new Damion 06-10-2003 22:45 
          RE: A New MIDI Atari? new tero 06-13-2003 14:55 
           I DO want to continue new replicant 06-13-2003 16:59 
            RE: I DO want to continue new Johan Klockars 06-14-2003 00:37 
             RE: I DO want to continue new replicant 06-14-2003 01:16 
            RE: I DO want to continue new Tero 06-17-2003 21:09 
           RE: A New MIDI Atari? new Johan Klockars 06-14-2003 00:07 
            RE: A New MIDI Atari? new Tero 06-17-2003 21:41 
             RE: A New MIDI Atari? new Johan Klockars 06-19-2003 02:57 
     RE: A New MIDI Atari? new Alex F. 06-09-2003 13:17 
      RE: A New MIDI Atari? new Damion 06-09-2003 23:31 
   RE: A New MIDI Atari? new GD 06-09-2003 10:06 
    RE: A New MIDI Atari? new Ragstaff 06-09-2003 13:47 
     RE: A New MIDI Atari? new velvetfr 06-09-2003 15:17 
      RE: A New MIDI Atari? new Alex F. 06-09-2003 16:12 
    RE: A New MIDI Atari? new tero 06-09-2003 18:50 

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